Carry On, Officer

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Vatar was sure he would be on time for his appointment with Officer Angelo. Between the bus ride commute and a short walk, he would definitely reach the station. The late afternoon drew out the worse of city life with traffic and kids being prominent everywhere he looked. He took in the fact that one day he would be one of those cars only with the job of making sure all these other people didn't get hurt. A daunting task for sure, but one he wasn't about to run from.

Walking up the front desk he gave greetings to the usual people hanging around the entrance. His internship here had netted him some social connection with the more open officers that weren't contra to the idea of palling around while on duty. Officer Angelo was the mix he wanted to be. While the man looked as if he was deathly serious he knew the man had a kind demeanor when not plagued by work.

Getting his all clear to enter the building he went up to Angelo's office and Knocked three times on the door.

Maybe he should've called just to make sure nothing had come up.

The thought crossed his mind as he listened to any movement behind the door.

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Something had come up, but it wasn't something that was going to mess with their appointment. Angelo was still in his office, and when Vatar knocked, Angelo glanced up from his desk, shuffling some papers and making his desk look a bit more organized. He looked alright, mostly recovered after the holidays, although it was awfully hard to tell considering his hair was always kind of wild.

"Come on in and grab a seat," he called. Wasn't he supposed to be doing a ride along? The answer was probably yes, but something more interesting had come up, and he wanted to bounce ideas off Vatar and see what he came up with.

"Have you been paying attention to the news? Current events? Major crimes?" Angelo asked, digging through papers to find the report that had been sent to the newspaper.

 

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Vatar took his seat while listening to Angelo fire off questions. The island had been pretty hot recently with the number of crimes being reported and overall disasters taking place. The biggest that came to his head was, of course, the slough of monsters that had popped up over the island not long ago putting many in the hospital. Save for that no name popped to his head right away.

Maybe the right answer was the cause of all the paper traffic passing over Officer Angelo's desk. He crossed one leg over the other and visually tried to think of anything out of the ordinary. He didn't want to admit he hadn't seen the news this morning due to a late shift last night. Giving excuses wouldn't cut it in this profession.

"Are you referring to the random spotting and attacks by strange creatures? Or has something more troubling come up?"

He unfolded his legs and leaned in, excited.

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"No, not the creatures," Angelo said, pulling out the report. "We've basically handed it off to other departments. We know why they're here, more or less, and while we'll respond to them, we're not in charge of that case. I meant this one."

Angelo carefully handed over the publically known evidence to Vatar.

"That's the jist of what we got. No pictures, since we haven't released those, but guy was a real shady character. Multiple stab wounds, face caved in, CAE symbols on the walls, body posed. Thoughts?"

Angelo was curious to see what Vatar would fixate on. The same things he had?

 

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He looked through the document and perked his eyebrows when the term CAE came up. He remembered these people..or at least those who took the more extreme stance of the organization. A lot of their belief were easy to push to far and had been the accused epicenter of some hate crimes and assaults in the past.

What was really strange was the blatant branding that was being described. It was common for gangs to leave signs of their work if they felt proud of it ,and were stupid. For all Vatar had seen the CAE weren't stupid in their public movements. The chance of a rouge member was always up in the air but nothing high up.

"Well CAE is an easy brand to promote considering the deceased was a demon. The level of wounds placed on the body gives a taste of genuine hatred for the victim too. However putting those two together to say it was truly CAE seems simple with lack of evidence. Next would be the posing of the body. It is another thing that just screams 'I hate demons and so does god'. The term ,too easy, can sometimes be true but in this case it seems like this is a set up. If the criminal wanted to leave a message that they were CAE and hated demons the first two signs wouldve been enough for any media coverage or notorious twitter account to run with. Instead they iced the cake with a religious symbol as if to say 'just to make sure you know I really really hate demons."

He placed the paper back on the desk.

"Plus given the location it is a case with many variables. Whether it be a drunk pedestrian gone hostile or simple gang violence we cant know yet....But like I said sometimes these cases are easy and over analyzing gets people hurt. I'd put money on my theory in the hopes that there is more evidence to be found."

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Angelo nodded along as Vatar explained his thought process. It wasn't too far from his own, although they'd followed completely different paths to get there.

"I started where you ended, mostly," Angelo said. "I have experience with organized crime, so that's where I tend to start. The victim was a gang leader. Any time someone involved in gang life gets killed in a way that isn't related to being a gang, I'm suspicious. Sure, accidents do happen, but more often than not I've come to accept that accidents are just a way of saying don't look too closely."

Angelo carefully filed the papers away.

"It's not my case, and no one wants to be the one to say 'I don't think it was actually a hate crime', but I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be gang warfare. But, religiously, I think the posing is a big giveaway as well."

It took Angelo a moment to remember that Vatar was literally an alien god or something along those lines, and maybe wouldn't get the full significance.

"Christ is a holy figure, and on the cross he's supposed to be dying for the sins of all humanity. Putting a demon in that pose seems to go against CAE beliefs. The demon isn't dying to save humans. In anti-demon rhetoric, they'd be sinners. The only posing I could see CAE doing would be to spread out a demons wings, or make them look otherwise inhuman. This, though? It's putting the demon in the same position as Christ, and that doesn't really line up for me."

 

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He had completely missed the symbolic meaning of the Christ position. He couldn't blame that for his lack of knowledge but his impairment to not dig as deep as he can...atleast in a harmless theory that is. He internally thrilled to know that he had gotten somewhat close to what Angelo thought only they were separated by the experience Angelo had as an officer and what he had as a college kid.

"So a cover-up seems more likely. However, that begs the question of why a leader was out by himself in a hotbed of criminal activity. Without pictures, I can't say if there was a struggle or not but I would assume you don't become a gang leader on looks alone."

He leaned back in his chair, starting to twirl his hair as he thought.

"You also said he was stabbed and had his face caved in right? That doesn't add up....my sociology teacher always goes on about putting yourself in the shoes of the people you research. In this case, if I'm the criminal and I assault the person with a knife I don't drop that knife so that I can use my fist. It defeats the purpose of bringing it. The only reasons a person goes from a better weapon to a weaker one is if there was a point at which they lost it."

He leaned forward, really getting into his story.

"Though if we assume that the killer didn't have a weapon at first and instead obtained it from the victim we have a story more believable for a gang leader....the other option blows the first two out the water, however. Two types of bodily damage and what I would consider a lot of work for a murderer to go through just to send a message. Two attackers taking on a gang boss explains the different damages, and if you are right about gang violence it makes sense for a leader to be assailed by more than one individual."

For someone to use a hate crime cloak as a cover for murder sickened him a bit. He remembered the fear all the harmless demons family felt two years ago when people were throwing rocks and assaulting people randomly over stuff like this. Stories to fuel the fire could spark another incident worse than the last.

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Truly, Angelo hadn't gotten that far. He hadn't put very much thought into things like the wounds, in large part because, strictly speaking, it wasn't his case.

"We'll likely never know," Angelo said. "The trick with hate crimes is that the handling for them has to be really, really delicate. You don't say it's not a hate crime unless you know it's not a hate crime, and even then only if you're completely sure. You don't want to be wrong. Hate crimes are considered particularly bad because it doesn't just effect the victim. There's a lot of psychological impact. Demons start to wonder if they're safe. It does damage to the overall community of the island, so they're treated that much more harshly. The case'll probably get a lot of very careful attention, because no one wants to give the impression that the police don't care when a demon dies, even if he was a literal gang leader."

Which was unfortunate. It meant they couldn't do their jobs. "It means we'll have to be more careful in general. More watchful. You don't know if something's going to happen that'll make it way worse. Hate crimes often spark repeat incidents. Anti-demon groups take it as a sign they can get away with it, and pro-demon groups take it as a sign that they're going to be victimized again."

 

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Vatar understood what Angelo was saying but something about it just didn't make him feel right. Granted Angelo had the experience so chances were he was more grounded in his opinion, but if an internship wasn't time to ask questions then when was?

The answer was the Police Academy of course but that was beside the point.

" That sounds so odd though. Isn't claiming something be a hate crime without certainty worse than the opposing? If the police claim a murder was committed by hate it has the immediate effect of making the Demons fearful that a hate crime was even committed and the department backs that assumption. Alongside that, hostile Anti-demon groups would just see it as a way to get attention."

In this case, the option of a possible hate crime was impossible to ignore but was always leaving the option open the best course of action. Shouldn't it be "You don't say it's a hate crime unless you know it's a hate crime"? Maybe that was just him but luckily he had someone to bounce the idea off of.

Vatar got a strange gut feeling when he said that, as if so memory was trying to present itself to him as an example, but sadly he blanked on it.

"If the police are wrong in that it was a hate crime they've essentially gotten the effect of it as if it were true. Calling it a murder will also scare some folks but people tend to let general murders fade from mind. When it becomes personal that target audience doesn't just forget the eyes on them...Damned if you do damn if you don't...........Overall this just seems shitty Sir."

He caught himself, coughing a bit.

"Sorry, it's a crappy situation."

Was that better? He probably should've gone a little more left with the wording.

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"Have you heard of the prisoner's dilemma?" Angelo said, flipping over a spare sheet of paper and quickly sketching it out as he explained. "It's a thought experiment. In very simple terms, you have two criminals who are asked to confess. If they betray their friend, they'll get a reduced charge. If they both betray each other, they'll both get two years in prison. If one betrays the other, but the other stays silent, then the one who stayed silent would get three years, and the one who betrayed would walk free. If both of them stay silent, they both only get one year. It's used in a lot of situations to explain how people react and cooperate when they can't trust that the other person will cooperate with them."

Angelo supposed his explanation probably wasn't the best, but the neat little grid explaining the options probably helped a lot.

"The way the police deal with hate crimes is kind of like that, except we're playing against the possibility that it's a real hate crime, and the possibility that the public will find out anyway. Like, without knowing who found the body, lets assume it's a random civilian."

Angelo tapped the grid.

"If we don't say it's a hate crime, just a murder, and they don't say anything, good! No one panics. Nothing goes wrong. If we do say it's a hate crime, and they don't say anything, people are stressed hearing it from the police, but it's not that bad. But on the other side of the grid, lets say that we say it's a hate crime, and they say it's a hate crime... again, stressful, but not that bad. The worst case scenario is the last option: That we don't bring it up as a hate crime, but the person who found the body tells people it is."

Angelo cringed, but didn't elaborate. The consequences of that would be terrible.

"So in the end we use language like investigating it as a potential hate crime so that no one gets freaked out if it does turn out to be an actual hate crime."

 
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