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Shay wanted to tell Angelo 'but you're a good man.' She wanted to cling to him and shed tears, confess sins. But Shay wasn't stupid enough to do that. Her heard hurt. She wanted the screaming to stop.

She smiled in a visibly forced way and patted his arm. "Well, you tried. That counts for something." Then Shay sighed.

Right. She was done and through. Getting married to a criminal. She was never really going to leave it all behind. Things didn't work like that. You had to want to leave everything behind to do it and Shay didn't. Not really.

To Shay, it was painfully clear that if She told Angelo all her badness, gave him even a peek at it, he'd leave. He'd hate her and leave. Maybe use that pretty gun on her. Probably, Derry, too, and that was the most lonely thought Shay had ever had.

The idea that there was no one: Not Theo. Not Angelo. Not Derry. No one, that Shay could be completely and brutally honest with who would accept it.

"I think I'm going to take a nap here if that's cool?"

 

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Angelo wouldn't leave, but there was no way for Shay to know that. There was no way for her to peek back the curtain and know what might have happened if she'd confessed to him.

Angelo simply didn't know. He suspected--mostly from the forced smile, the way conversation stopped--that there was something else going on, but Angelo was not a parent who'd spent a lifetime learning his children's behaviors. He could really only guess at things, trying to practice the things that had once been practiced ever so badly on him.

"My home is your home," Angelo said. "You're rooms still there, even if you moved out, and you're free to nap and whatever you want."

There was a moments pause while Angelo tried to come up with the right words.

"You can talk to me about anything, you know?" Angelo said. Maybe she felt she couldn't, after their last talk. But he wanted her to anyway. He wanted to know what was going on in her life, and that would never happen if she wasn't willing to talk.

 

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Shay was not about to admit to murdering someone to Angelo. Even if that weighed on her. She would never talk about it to anyone ever. That was how you didn't go to jail. But there were plenty of other things that scared her all the same.

Shay didn't move to go take that nap. Not after he spoke and there was this awkward air between them. God, she was exhausted. All the mental stress of everything was getting to her. Being close to people was hard fucking work.

Shay wasn't about to confess murder, so she said the next best thing. "Are we going to pretend our last conversation never happened?"

She had thought she'd be fine never bringing it up again. Leaving it a skeleton amongst all the others in her closet, but Angelo acting... well normal around her had thrown her off. As if he hadn't looked at her with that complete horror on his face before. Were they both in some weird state of denial? The thought killed her.

Maybe Angelo couldn't help her with her crippling abandonment issues (and hey, no one but her and Valli could) but he could sure as Hell give insight into them. Whatever she and Angelo were. They'd always been in this weird sort of limbo. Not friends, she'd learned quickly enough, but something.

"What are we doing, Angelo?" she asked, using his real name to let him know she was utterly serious now. "Why... I am why are we even here? I know I asked you once, a while ago, but I was angry them. I'm not now. But..." She rubbed her arm.

"We weren't friends. We weren't anything. It seemed like you'd have liked to stay as far from me as possible. The only reason you used to talk to me was to get Klaus talking. So why are we here?"

 

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"Yeah, more or less," Angelo said in response to her first question, his eyebrows slowly raising. He didn't see a point to talking about it. Not really. They were at a clear ideological crossroads, and one that neither was likely to convince the other away from. A fundamentally different way of looking at sin, and one that inevitably came from their upbringing. Angelo had been religious, even if it had been a corrupted version of it, and Shay... well, hadn't.

She hadn't had much of anything.

"You seem to have forgotten I met you before Klaus did," Angelo pointed out. "And tried to socialize with you even back then. I'm not going to say we were friends, because personally I think anyone my age who's hanging out with someone that much younger is off, but I still wanted to be something. You reminded me of myself when I first got to the island. Sixteen, having left everyone behind, with no one at all. It was hard. Hard to adapt, hard to get used to doing everything myself, and I had no one to lean on. So I wanted to be that for you, even if my job made it hard."

He didn't have enough time. He really only had enough time now because Caterina and Enzo were there helping with things, and almost all of the kids were old enough to manage on their own, even without him. Sometimes he felt more like a glorified cheerleader than a parent, but almost everyone he'd adopted was old enough they didn't need a parent getting into their business all the time.

"If anything, being around Klaus made me less likely to visit," Angelo pointed out. "I mostly had it figured out by the time he vanished, but for a long while I didn't want to get anywhere near him because I thought people would think I was dirty."

 

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"I don't want to pretend like it didn't happen," she told him. "I don't want to fight about it, but I don't want to sweep it all under the rug either. It makes me feel... unseen." Which was the best way Shay could put it. Like she was a glorified lie Angelo could see and interact with.

"I guess I always assumed you didn't want me leaning on you. After Klaus came around, things just got harder and harder. I really liked you the first time we met." She paused, speaking a little lower. "You made me feel safe and you were one of the only adults I knew – still know – who had boundaries.

"And then Klaus was there and everything got fucky. It still feels fucky. I think it'll always be a little fucky. You believe in me so much, like I got all of this good in me, but I'm not good. A good kid wouldn't have gone with Klaus so easily in the first place. A good kid wouldn't have gotten mixed up in the Billy Graham stuff, or adapted to gang life that easily.

"Truth is, I don't deserve you. I don't deserve Fitz. I don't deserve an idyllicc life but here I am getting it anyway. I think I'll get bored with it."

Shay wished a chair were closer, or more comfortable. She opted to walk a little ways until she could plop back on a nearby couch and rest her arm over her face. "I'm fucking terrified of everything, Angelo, and I've never felt more alone."

And just as she'd recalled telling him before, Shay said, "and let's face it, if people want to see you as dirty. They'll do it. They have plenty of reason even now. You adopted all the Rosales kids. Managed to take down one of Manta Carlos' biggest gangs in, like, a day. That's suspicious as fuck. But who cares. You're a good cop."

 

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It was a lot, and it was a lot that Angelo truly didn't know how to deal with. What was he supposed to say, that he didn't know what to say?

On second thought, he said just that.

"I'm not sure what to say, honestly," Angelo said. "I'm still digesting it. It's just... a difference in the way we see things. I'm not sure it can be fixed, or if it even needs fixing. It's just... two different beliefs for how things work."

Which kind of lead into everything else, didn't it?

"Like, you think humans are fundamentally neutral, or maybe even fundamentally bad, while I like to believe they're fundamentally good to start, and then they slide back. It's not that either of us is right or wrong, it's just... different."

Well, that was the general idea, but there were a few things he still disagreed with.

"Pretty much anyone would choose to go with him. He was rich and important, and promised to be your real family. In a way, you probably gravitated towards him because he was screwed up. You have..." Angelo paused, wondering for a moment if he was being too harsh, and then decided Shay would understand. "You have issues with your self esteem. You don't think you deserve anything good, so going with Klaus was a self-fulfilling prophecy."

"As for being dirty... yeah. That was pretty much the conclusion I came too as well. Some people will always assume I'm dirty."

 

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"I believe people are... more complicated than good and bad," Shay corrected with a face that didn't give much confidence to what she was saying. "Like, how can we say there's this sliding scale of good and bad. Maybe they're just they're own piles. You do all these bad things, but doing the good might not erase those. Our decisions are impactful.

"If you told me," Shay inhaled here, "that Nick was trying to straighten out his life. Like that he actually wanted to and he was going for it. It wouldn't matter how much good he'd do from there on in. He'd still r– done what he'd done to me. My life and the trauma I carry will always be affected. I'd never forgive him. All those women he'd killed are still dead and their families would never forgive him. It's not fair, but maybe that's the real Hell of bad decisions. It's here, on Earth, where we have to live with the things we've done."

Shay laughed a little. Self-esteem issues were one way of putting it. "Danger magnet, too. I never much thought of it as a self-fulfilling prophecy, I'd kind of thought a Greed Demon would stick it out no matter what. But that's very telling. Truth is, I don't blame you when you get that look when I start talking about shit. I'd probably get that look at me too."

Now it felt awkward. Shay wanted a hug and she hated asking. It always felt so odd to ask someone for that, especially someone you didn't hug a lot. She rubbed removed her arm from her face and sat up slowly, in a small voice, asking, "can I get a hug?"

 

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Shay, whether Angelo felt good about it or not, made some good points. The actions didn't go away.

"You're right," Angelo admitted. "But I believe in... even if individual actions can't be erased, I believe in some kind of cosmic sliding scale. That it's never too late to stop and start being good. Like I did."

Maybe it was his way of clinging to the hope that he wasn't eternally damned by the things he'd done as a child.

"I'm not trying to get a look," Angelo muttered. He didn't answer her last question, just reached over and pulled her into a hug, continuing the conversation like the hug was as normal as could possibly be. "It's just a lot to process, and it's not like I had deep philosophical discussions with most people, you know. This is new."

 

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"It's not," Shay agreed once Angelo had hugged her and she was comfortably hugging him back. It felt weird, but not a bad weird; she was trying not to think about it too hard. "Just 'cause bad things stick with us doesn't mean good things don't. There are certain things in the world people have a harder time accepting: rape, Liches, that sort of things. And then, there are things like you did. But people still view you as this hero and pinnacle of rightness."

Shay pulled back her face to try and replicate the worried expression he always got in a comical manner. "You don't get it when we talk about philosophy! Usually."

Shay was feeling more relaxed than when she'd first came here, but that didn't stop her from being tired or sick to her stomach. It was amazing the ways a person could pretend to be alright and it wasn't like a kid like her hadn't perfected methods of that all their life.

"Surprised you haven't turned my room into an exercising room. Or a gun range for you new totally-not-a-scythe gun that I think you're wrong about but whatevernotmycall."

 

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"For the record," Angelo mumbled into her shoulder. "I don't hate him 'cuz he's a lich."

Clement was a lich, after all, and he was totally fine with Angelo. Angelo knew better then anyone that what someone was didn't effect who they were. Half his children were demons, but perfectly well behaved ones.

Angelo sort of got the impression Shay was off, but he was right for all the wrong reasons. She'd come home for comfort, but to him she'd come back to try and patch up their relationship a little bit, since they'd obviously put a great big fracture in it with their last talk.

"I've got a gym at work," Angelo pointed out. "And a shooting range. And as much as I'd like to joke about paving over your room to put in a big screen TV. I'll go slightly more serious for a moment and just point out it's basically always going to be your room. Until you're good and settled in a house of your own with a job and two-point-five kids, it'll still be your room."