Private Finished Returning Patient: Ishvi

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"Yes, yes, absolutely yes. I knew the moment I started in that direction, and these these scars -" he unclenched his hands and held them palm up towards Valli. Angry, dagger-shaped burns across both. "These scars are just reminders because I didn't want to let go of a piece of home even when my own daggers started burning me."

"And when I was there, when I I, when I fell all the way." He'd pulled his hands back in, wings clenched tight, and so so quiet. Still trying to speak deliberately though he kept stumbling. Hesitating over each word, afraid of all of them, disgusted, both. "I stood there and my thoughts were.. I knew it would make me fall. I started falling because my thoughts were bad. Because I... And I knew I was falling and I didn't stop and I gave away a dagger but I kept one. It wasn't planned until it was and I was there. And I tried so so I tried to make it so I wouldn't... come back. My thoughts were bad, I'm bad before I act, and my thoughts.. I'd still..."

Ishvi put his hands over his eyes abruptly, holding his head in his hands, a futile gesture trying to hide. He physically couldn't cry in this form, but he still shivered slightly. But he'd stopped talking. Was trying to stem the flood of words, though it was probably too late.
 

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The words were coming out in a nearly incoherent rush, and Valli was having a hard tim keeping up. He got bits and pieces, things here and there, but actually understanding the grand scheme of things--what Ishvi really meant--was a bit beyond him.

He was going to just do the best he could.

"You knew your thoughts were bad, and yet you persevered any way. You continued on," he said carefully, hoping to get a better idea of what he was dealing with.
 

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Ishvi shook his head slightly, face still covered. His head ached slightly just from stress, and he was wondering why he'd come here to say things he didn't want to talk about. Probably because nothing else had worked. He really had nowhere else to go.

"But I didn't... persevere... I just ... didn't die..." His words were muffled by his hands, strained. "And now my nightmares are of drowning. And I know I shouldn't think about, about... what I did. It didn't help anything, stop anything. It didn't work... it didn't work..."

Ishvi stopped himself. Put his hands at his sides, fists clenched, his face determined. Tried to remember how to breathe because it felt like he'd forgotten. Then he looked straight at Valli, still not meeting his eyes, but at least attempting to speak to him instead of at the floor.

"There's something wrong with me. I still-" he faltered, said the last few words in a rush, "think about bad things." And he lowered his gaze again.
 

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He'd given in to his grief and sorrow, and yet he was left with even more regrets. More issues. Haunted by his suicide and what he'd done, both how it had happen and in terms of failures.

"When you say you think about bad things," Valli said. "Can you describe them? Please don't be afraid of saying them - saying a bad thing is not the same thing as acting on a bad thing. And I don't judge people for their thoughts. Not here, certainly."
 

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"No no. I don't want to think about those things. I should be trying to live. I have to try, have to do - something - have to... I don't know... I don't know and if I try to look forward it's like looking into a wall ... Or running into one."

Ishvi absently rubbed at the scar on his chest a brief moment, before putting his hand at his sides and staring silently at his feet. It was a while before he spoke again, mumbled, "There are ways to not come back."

Another pause, still speaking quietly at his feet, as if he was trying to pretend he was only talking to himself. "I'm stuck. I shouldn't still think about ... I don't even want- I don't think I want to to... die... again. But it's there, and just I don't know what to do. If I should even try anything or if it's all pointless now."
 

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So his bad thoughts were suicidal in nature. That was at least something. He'd fallen. He'd thought about killing himself. He'd fallen, tried, and come back. Even now, he thought about it just the same, trying to find ways to escape.

That was something he can work with.

"What you're experiencing could be considered an intrusive thought. A thought that, even if you don't want it, seems to constantly... get in the way. To be in your brain. Even if you push it away. Everyone has intrusive thoughts to some degree, but sometimes those thoughts can become too intense to allow them to be handled by just one person. Even so, there are ways to handle them - to train the brain to not think of those sorts of thoughts, and to allow you to simply change your mind when they pop up, rather than forcing yourself to linger on them."

Valli paused for a moment, and then pushed himself up, heading over to his desk and pulling out a small flier.

"What I can recommend is called Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. It's generally fairly short term, lasting only a few sessions, and it focuses on retraining the brain and allowing you to change patterns of thought, and thus change the way you feel about things. It's a bit more practical and overall, but I think it would be able to help relieve some of your distress about this issue."
 

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Ishvi stayed looking down at his feet for a moment, even when he heard Valli get up. The man sounded so accurate with his words, and really what did he have to lose? Still, being here talking was - Ishvi was a mess, he couldn't deny that.

"Why don't you judge me?" He spoke with a vaguely accusatory tone, bitter. Then glanced over at Valli. "It feels... Angels had justice, right, and wrong. But they were perfect. The fallen, the wrong, the wrong things were punished, not helped back up. I think ... Angels would never invent therapy."

Staring at his hands again, Ishvi was still quietly strained whenever he spoke. "Why are you trying to help, to change my mind? Is this right... I should stop the thoughts. I should try to stay alive? Is that right? I'm not sure anymore. It hurts to think but I'm not sure anymore. "
 

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"It's not my place to judge," Valli said. "People don't come to therapy to be judged by someone else. They come for someone to offer help. To guide them through the hard times in life."

He didn't usually comment on things like angels or purity or absolute good. But in this case it was hard to not to. He couldn't really deal with the issues as long as Ishvi remained fixed in his current viewpoint.

"Do you believe in free will, Ishvi?"
 

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Well. That was an unexpected question. "Yes. No. Maybe. I don't know... Maybe?" Ishvi stammered out his answer in surprise before he'd fully thought about it. Then he paused, took a breath, and tried to think it through.

It was complicated, and he really wasn't sure why Valli was asking, but he welcomed the distraction. At least part of him trusted that this man knew what he was doing, or Ishvi would not have come at all. Except, even after thinking, his answer was mostly the same. "I don't know... People choose - I chose to do something bad... But there's sometimes natures. People have to fight their natures. Free will is why fallen angels are worse than demons.... and half-breeds. Half an angel is impure and shouldn't have been born. And I'm responsible to, to make up for that. And I failed. If there was a home to go back to, I'd be exiled. And I only have myself to blame. They kept me and raised me even though I was this this... I should've stayed."
 

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He carried onward just the same, even if it was obvious Ishvi didn't quite know where he was going.

"Do you think it's fair, that when someone makes a single mistake, they can no longer be saved? That once someone has fallen, they cannot be brought back up?"

He paused, his face placid, his usual smile gone. He was fairly serious about the whole thing, actually.

"If they were a human child, how would you feel about that? Would you punish a child because their parent was a bad person? Would you tell them they were bad because their father was bad?"